1 00:00:01,06 --> 00:00:05,91 You get experience is actually a clinical trial or 2 00:00:05,92 --> 00:00:12,57 a person stock really no brain waves and no rain. They were 3 00:00:12,58 --> 00:00:18,83 clinically dead leaving didn't need guidance or they could have been dead thirty 4 00:00:18,91 --> 00:00:24,55 five minutes but they do return for on we can all have them with 5 00:00:24,64 --> 00:00:30,63 a totally different life profoundly changed life they have a new life direction 6 00:00:30,81 --> 00:00:37,57 a new career often new relationships and that experiences change them for the rest 7 00:00:37,58 --> 00:00:42,56 of your life and these people will share that with you now just to understand where 8 00:00:42,57 --> 00:00:48,47 you guys are coming from and even to show my usual hands who here have had 9 00:00:48,71 --> 00:00:52,74 a new good experience. OK so 10 00:00:52,75 --> 00:00:58,99 a few of you. Are here and this is the end of the panels have just 11 00:00:59,87 --> 00:01:03,82 ten minutes to talk about their background and their history and 12 00:01:03,83 --> 00:01:07,92 a little bit about your experience I'd like to hear from some of you what you would 13 00:01:07,93 --> 00:01:13,24 like to hear from them so they can focus their ten minutes of information. 14 00:01:14,37 --> 00:01:20,37 For Review So what would you like to do about I mean that they have details about 15 00:01:20,38 --> 00:01:25,57 how they do it they have details about what occurred when they were on the other 16 00:01:25,58 --> 00:01:27,04 side and then they are 17 00:01:27,08 --> 00:01:32,20 a lot of details that found change in their life which you look with on 18 00:01:32,21 --> 00:01:38,77 a daily basis and what they passed away often very very strong new 19 00:01:38,78 --> 00:01:45,67 psychic abilities so just just go ahead and you have to do what you like here yes 20 00:01:45,68 --> 00:01:51,55 or what it's like you're like wow. OK. 21 00:01:53,35 --> 00:01:58,54 Yes Yes So what happened when they were on your side yes anyone else would you know 22 00:01:58,55 --> 00:02:05,55 hear. The question anything negative while they're on 23 00:02:05,56 --> 00:02:11,99 the other side is now. How do they cope as they approach and 24 00:02:12,37 --> 00:02:12,69 ask. 25 00:02:20,61 --> 00:02:21,18 What do you have 26 00:02:21,24 --> 00:02:28,65 a gaping. So 27 00:02:28,66 --> 00:02:34,63 what's the understanding of humans and what we are. Yes ma'am. 28 00:02:36,59 --> 00:02:43,06 We. Didn't get any of you believe you have it 29 00:02:43,34 --> 00:02:49,09 before you have this year yet. You have 30 00:02:49,10 --> 00:02:50,99 a life where you can say something. 31 00:02:56,74 --> 00:03:01,33 Well this is this is going on you go oh so each one of you can focus on 32 00:03:01,34 --> 00:03:06,10 a different area to address some of these meetings or suggest it's me. 33 00:03:20,64 --> 00:03:27,51 OK three mph. Right what was wildly workers 34 00:03:27,52 --> 00:03:32,10 like dead really communicating with their loved ones associates who were still here 35 00:03:32,30 --> 00:03:39,04 at school bodies on. That. One 36 00:03:39,05 --> 00:03:45,67 million and ended with loved ones and house and you have more experience you give 37 00:03:45,68 --> 00:03:48,54 me now that very have returned they had 38 00:03:48,55 --> 00:03:55,50 a ball to live past. The jury and and after you leave you are tossed and 39 00:03:55,51 --> 00:04:01,07 it was the start of the connection. All right yes. 40 00:04:02,38 --> 00:04:07,87 So what would you say to people who would claim that your reaction to have heard 41 00:04:08,02 --> 00:04:14,27 their experience really had over. A period and that's 42 00:04:14,28 --> 00:04:20,80 a very valid. QUESTION OK thank you so good or you might think that I was pretty 43 00:04:20,81 --> 00:04:26,89 good clues right here in my scans of your cars and they're going to hope you get 44 00:04:26,95 --> 00:04:33,84 a real real vacation now or. You just have something to say 45 00:04:33,85 --> 00:04:40,25 something about we use one of those records yes with her OK yes. This is 46 00:04:40,26 --> 00:04:46,46 a very popular just miss all of the near death experience and if you look at the 47 00:04:46,47 --> 00:04:52,69 International Association near death Studies website they have white papers and 48 00:04:52,70 --> 00:04:58,98 research data goes back to nineteen seventy four addressing exactly this question 49 00:04:59,14 --> 00:05:03,89 in addition to that even Alexander. You are going to get 50 00:05:03,90 --> 00:05:09,25 a bestseller on the New York Times he has been interviewed by Oprah Winfrey and he 51 00:05:09,26 --> 00:05:09,41 is 52 00:05:09,42 --> 00:05:15,55 a physician these are her most serene and to understand pretty conclusively what was 53 00:05:15,56 --> 00:05:17,59 it about of the fact that 54 00:05:17,60 --> 00:05:24,01 a near death experience is to. Chemical reaction. Yes Yes So here's your kids. 55 00:05:25,63 --> 00:05:32,26 Reaction grade. Level wait for you to have this experience that's also good 56 00:05:33,23 --> 00:05:39,44 but what would lead feel free to look at decades of research and analysis on 57 00:05:40,14 --> 00:05:46,79 this material on the International Association for us. All right 58 00:05:46,80 --> 00:05:52,39 so let's get started. This is. What you said there for now. 59 00:05:53,82 --> 00:05:59,63 Let's get straight to the gallows Now we understand like to hear more about how we 60 00:05:59,64 --> 00:06:04,96 get started with drunken Roy you know or what do you suppose you're on the back and 61 00:06:05,35 --> 00:06:10,94 it shows about all of this research on the near death experience he has interviewed 62 00:06:11,51 --> 00:06:15,88 hundreds of people who have your death experience so 63 00:06:16,39 --> 00:06:23,25 a scientific paper called information without education Oh well let's 64 00:06:23,26 --> 00:06:27,75 want to get a break and we'll get started. On you she's 65 00:06:27,76 --> 00:06:34,72 a. Pretty. Tough questions I know you're 66 00:06:35,09 --> 00:06:40,24 sincere interest talk hope we can pursue this question. 67 00:06:42,43 --> 00:06:49,36 Understand. Things of the way or do you expand your research. That's why I'm 68 00:06:49,37 --> 00:06:56,34 here for you for all. Your guests experiences of the disability known I 69 00:06:56,35 --> 00:07:01,66 like to call them really good stories because people really are although there are 70 00:07:01,67 --> 00:07:08,67 some people who are calling also some stories. Today that you're going 71 00:07:08,68 --> 00:07:15,65 to hear. A number of arguments about near death experiences I want to go over 72 00:07:15,66 --> 00:07:21,98 far but I think the most important and I would rather review about four thousand 73 00:07:21,99 --> 00:07:28,94 euro experiences and you are viewing the site. And the filing outward appearance 74 00:07:28,95 --> 00:07:34,95 that I have just. One consciousness is meaningful. 75 00:07:36,15 --> 00:07:43,11 Expansive. And in trying. To you how to 76 00:07:43,12 --> 00:07:49,94 unify the action with all the means. Including the. Great. 77 00:07:51,31 --> 00:07:57,44 Barrier the universe is me out of love. And you are it spreads. 78 00:07:59,75 --> 00:08:06,68 Or. You are deeply in the other condition it's important on the condition you 79 00:08:06,74 --> 00:08:13,71 are. Beyond earthly man you know what you have today just how much love you are 80 00:08:15,74 --> 00:08:20,14 and finally you have nothing. That's not just. 81 00:08:23,81 --> 00:08:29,96 So we can talk all day five things was going around this weekend here talking over 82 00:08:29,97 --> 00:08:34,95 the undergraduates of the near death experience for Hustler some research about 83 00:08:34,96 --> 00:08:40,64 a new Nothing springs turns and his eyes and you're awestruck by the standards 84 00:08:42,05 --> 00:08:47,60 and what they found as of about five percent. Of the people all. 85 00:08:49,83 --> 00:08:56,11 During those studies how did your experience of others just as. I was curious 86 00:08:56,73 --> 00:09:02,17 or give your stories of people who have spiritual beings have. Things to tell us 87 00:09:02,18 --> 00:09:09,17 about how to live. And some people that's fifteen million people in the 88 00:09:09,18 --> 00:09:15,51 United States alone. In fact. Gigi's go where the survey here 89 00:09:15,98 --> 00:09:21,75 think about five percent of this room with their dive experiences so we're right on 90 00:09:21,76 --> 00:09:27,89 target those figures. So near death experiences aren't going away. 91 00:09:35,44 --> 00:09:42,36 I don't know how to talk to your. Pastor at the Methodist Church and why 92 00:09:42,40 --> 00:09:49,12 can't you come up out of his backyard. So talking here 93 00:09:49,37 --> 00:09:55,80 about your experiences he says you know I was dismissed. But as 94 00:09:55,82 --> 00:10:02,16 a pastor. I've had so many people over the congregation come for her tell me about 95 00:10:02,38 --> 00:10:07,78 I can dismiss it. But that's exactly what the church has kind of been doing. 96 00:10:09,46 --> 00:10:15,02 You know what to me. More recently some of the finest churches are announcing. 97 00:10:16,48 --> 00:10:22,63 That this is the first of all it's sort of been boring. And what I want to say to 98 00:10:22,64 --> 00:10:29,54 you this. Society in the church is to round off this they don't 99 00:10:29,55 --> 00:10:33,11 need to do that in fear talk about over 100 00:10:33,52 --> 00:10:40,11 a million or one of the other this is of on your experience is that people have the 101 00:10:40,12 --> 00:10:46,40 same homes. He kosher 102 00:10:47,12 --> 00:10:53,65 so she might start this engine in the line with your country 103 00:10:54,04 --> 00:11:00,95 so if I was in the same home as the someone from China was sitting 104 00:11:00,96 --> 00:11:06,53 on some things. That speaks to me why it would 105 00:11:07,50 --> 00:11:13,73 experience her more and even and not. Just 106 00:11:14,58 --> 00:11:18,08 me how serious the same elements as 107 00:11:18,09 --> 00:11:24,77 a Christian is in the. So for meetings 108 00:11:25,19 --> 00:11:31,11 Ah yes. They can be spiritual. And expand well. 109 00:11:35,07 --> 00:11:41,91 There really are other homes that support experience. On this wish I had 110 00:11:41,92 --> 00:11:48,42 more time to go over and I recommend this for viewers where there. Is 111 00:11:48,43 --> 00:11:55,41 a. Physician who wrote. The book while it's in your 112 00:11:55,53 --> 00:12:02,18 experience the focus is on mine the monster is my point here is the second 113 00:12:02,58 --> 00:12:08,68 that with the reliability and the heart and so many more in these experiences that 114 00:12:09,27 --> 00:12:16,04 we seriously. So why are you sure. They were 115 00:12:16,05 --> 00:12:19,26 born to be cause. These are by 116 00:12:19,27 --> 00:12:26,25 a solution how about. This the more I hear are there are solutions I'm on the 117 00:12:26,26 --> 00:12:33,25 Christian one would you mind says Jesus will also those. People come out so 118 00:12:33,26 --> 00:12:39,83 sure say the regime about the other side of another reason I do this in order. 119 00:12:41,32 --> 00:12:46,49 When you announced the question why are so many people are in your experiences and 120 00:12:46,49 --> 00:12:53,19 . Forty fifty years ago they were there they were rare how the 121 00:12:53,20 --> 00:12:58,36 houses of people were happy millions of our people I'll be your wife hundreds of 122 00:12:58,66 --> 00:13:05,64 times I actually need more of the wild nine. Through all the technology 123 00:13:05,68 --> 00:13:10,91 is bringing more people back we can always point somebody and those are the big 124 00:13:10,92 --> 00:13:17,66 names who is the human species and the threshold we have down so far that was over 125 00:13:17,67 --> 00:13:23,78 we have an odd man as far as spiritual. And I do believe goddess and this new 126 00:13:23,79 --> 00:13:24,74 information for 127 00:13:24,78 --> 00:13:30,93 a new edition. It was for the stronger self trustfully ours so I think it's 128 00:13:30,94 --> 00:13:36,36 critical that people listen to what people are same experiences. 129 00:13:38,20 --> 00:13:45,04 So what should be the response of the church. I think Farai 130 00:13:45,05 --> 00:13:49,99 her foremost. You have the fear of the new things. 131 00:13:52,07 --> 00:13:54,42 That really are seen as 132 00:13:54,43 --> 00:14:01,35 a news and she assumes you. Martha said Shirley was raised 133 00:14:01,36 --> 00:14:06,75 Baptist and then I have my own feelings for newsgroups and she reaches me on they 134 00:14:06,76 --> 00:14:11,12 were near death experiences but they were still very important. 135 00:14:16,10 --> 00:14:17,11 And that's 136 00:14:17,12 --> 00:14:25,99 a. Good. So 137 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:32,72 far as fighting is it's always second thoughts in the bud. The last and 138 00:14:32,97 --> 00:14:39,53 final say I don't know. But I don't. Have 139 00:14:39,54 --> 00:14:45,63 a home experiences. And I still remember Mission. The hard 140 00:14:46,24 --> 00:14:50,68 altar of money and by the strength of my regime me through this now I live in the 141 00:14:50,69 --> 00:14:57,45 Windy City. And so on. So I don't think there's anything to fear 142 00:14:57,98 --> 00:15:03,94 from now fundamentalist folks enough if you knew you were from the Sunni buy here. 143 00:15:05,47 --> 00:15:09,09 They knew all rejected me as it does go 144 00:15:09,10 --> 00:15:15,77 a little beyond. The one true fuckin with the shopping centers and this isn't 145 00:15:15,78 --> 00:15:22,22 consistent in those of you and your minds in that. Well we already knew it wasn't 146 00:15:22,23 --> 00:15:27,34 for the. Oh you know I was with the school. 147 00:15:31,67 --> 00:15:38,38 Would know you are goes this route if you have God who know. So well some of those 148 00:15:38,42 --> 00:15:44,99 who just. Oh beautiful was it to those who are you really sure about love. 149 00:15:46,98 --> 00:15:53,74 Still goes on this for. So it was you I was 150 00:15:53,84 --> 00:16:00,53 thinking about if you go over for who you are those were full series. And I was. 151 00:16:01,63 --> 00:16:06,72 I was the first of mindfulness is wonderful this is somehow the power of the city 152 00:16:06,73 --> 00:16:13,57 over the focusing on this the as it were the city center of. The if you reduce 153 00:16:13,58 --> 00:16:20,55 that if you really was. To me and this is as you are. So without further 154 00:16:20,56 --> 00:16:24,63 ado it. Will continue rather noosphere maybe. 155 00:16:32,34 --> 00:16:38,56 The next we have the right she's an artist or writer but we hear their metro area 156 00:16:39,20 --> 00:16:41,32 she has time to think back right this is 157 00:16:41,33 --> 00:16:45,40 a job just in the field hardest so she has 158 00:16:45,41 --> 00:16:51,76 a very analytical Oh. She started this yes 159 00:16:52,22 --> 00:16:56,37 she's changed her mind says. She has 160 00:16:56,38 --> 00:17:02,34 a bachelor's degree in geology. And she now works. And 161 00:17:02,35 --> 00:17:06,68 a project. So welcome. 162 00:17:08,44 --> 00:17:15,16 Thank you and it is India's appendices 163 00:17:15,23 --> 00:17:22,07 speed better record. So I knew some of the back 164 00:17:22,46 --> 00:17:28,09 and asked about whether we believe it has happened before there and I can tell you 165 00:17:28,10 --> 00:17:34,54 for sure that I did and. I was told I am I was probably 166 00:17:34,84 --> 00:17:35,65 not necessarily 167 00:17:35,66 --> 00:17:40,58 a militant atheist but I was definitely one of the biggest If he is my purpled or. 168 00:17:41,90 --> 00:17:48,04 Didn't believe any of this. Might have spiritual friends but we just didn't talk 169 00:17:48,05 --> 00:17:53,55 about anything spiritual because of the extremely uncomfortable I didn't want to go 170 00:17:53,56 --> 00:17:58,81 there and believe that there was anything beyond the surface of the plate and then 171 00:17:59,53 --> 00:18:01,23 what I realized too is that I had 172 00:18:01,24 --> 00:18:07,95 a tremendous fear of. Because I didn't believe in anything has this I believe that 173 00:18:07,96 --> 00:18:13,99 consciousness it died when their bodies died. And if you couple of years ago that 174 00:18:14,00 --> 00:18:16,58 all changed for me I'm still 175 00:18:16,59 --> 00:18:23,59 a scientist and I still do technical stuff. On. My candy out and 176 00:18:24,03 --> 00:18:29,99 in the Boulder area and what happened is I was a bicycle and got hit by 177 00:18:30,00 --> 00:18:36,44 a car. That's all the scary books I want to come to their aid now the hope that 178 00:18:36,45 --> 00:18:42,55 actually any it's up happened during surgery. A couple of days later I had my spine 179 00:18:42,56 --> 00:18:45,74 or hairy as it was I was kind of like Humpty Dumpty I was in 180 00:18:45,75 --> 00:18:47,72 a million pieces and the doctors took 181 00:18:47,94 --> 00:18:54,14 a few days and looking back together again so the green out surgery I was 182 00:18:54,89 --> 00:19:00,70 going into you know the operating room and they showed me and with anesthesia. 183 00:19:01,73 --> 00:19:06,22 And said you're going up into that race did nothing else that we are going to 184 00:19:06,27 --> 00:19:11,49 release most of us go to where we are at various stages and I ended up in the most 185 00:19:11,50 --> 00:19:18,37 amazing place and probably you're correct. But even under me 186 00:19:18,38 --> 00:19:20,72 and it was I was it is 187 00:19:20,73 --> 00:19:24,79 a beautiful landscape of the landscape of the sub really doesn't matter because 188 00:19:24,80 --> 00:19:30,72 a what I was told was that interpersonal experience that intermediate state between 189 00:19:30,73 --> 00:19:35,85 life and death differently. But I happen to be transported to 190 00:19:35,89 --> 00:19:41,00 a hilltop that all kind of thing with mountains in the distance and everything just 191 00:19:41,01 --> 00:19:46,74 vibrated with several layers of energy but the first thing that I know that I 192 00:19:46,75 --> 00:19:52,44 noticed in the first day that totally out of the maze and I couldn't I just really 193 00:19:52,45 --> 00:19:58,58 couldn't stand up in the face of this was the divine presence and I knew it was the 194 00:19:58,59 --> 00:20:05,54 divine presence of our love was incredible and coming from someone who was it 195 00:20:05,55 --> 00:20:10,33 needed is to see it off what am I doing here expected to be you know there was 196 00:20:10,34 --> 00:20:16,18 a heavenly now expected to go the other direction right. When I do now and then. 197 00:20:17,50 --> 00:20:22,30 But the divine welcomed me back with open arms and it was 198 00:20:22,31 --> 00:20:28,78 a conditional absolutely of international love fully accepting of who I was 199 00:20:29,09 --> 00:20:34,06 even though I knew that I had done some things that probably ocean made some 200 00:20:34,07 --> 00:20:40,23 decisions that. In hindsight I would have done differently now knowing that the 201 00:20:40,24 --> 00:20:46,98 reality of who we are which is we are all sparks of the divine your own bits of the 202 00:20:46,99 --> 00:20:53,75 divine we're all connected and very expansive way to the divine and I 203 00:20:53,76 --> 00:20:59,36 didn't realize that when I made those decisions but even with those questionable 204 00:20:59,37 --> 00:21:05,66 decisions in my past which we are now and someone her neither. I was welcomed back 205 00:21:05,94 --> 00:21:12,42 with then and love an amazing embrace of love and acceptance and chill way almost I 206 00:21:12,43 --> 00:21:18,41 can't express I felt as if I was not only a watching 207 00:21:18,42 --> 00:21:23,47 a sea of Divine Love but it also Philip me out it came through me and some an 208 00:21:23,51 --> 00:21:29,72 amazingly energetic way I can describe it it's not something that's very physical 209 00:21:29,73 --> 00:21:34,60 it's a very energetic thing because we're no longer physical right now it's 210 00:21:34,61 --> 00:21:40,54 a city on the near what I call the near death state at least for those of us who 211 00:21:40,55 --> 00:21:43,36 come back what I can tell is it's sort of 212 00:21:43,37 --> 00:21:49,42 a stepping off point and and the real have and this is the end of your destination 213 00:21:50,14 --> 00:21:56,87 when I was there I was fully expected to keep going on. I had assumed that 214 00:21:56,88 --> 00:21:59,44 I I didn't know why this was 215 00:21:59,45 --> 00:22:04,18 a close experiencing and because in the surgeries I've had before I never 216 00:22:04,19 --> 00:22:11,18 experienced anything like this. But instead it saved I I 217 00:22:11,19 --> 00:22:14,82 didn't see any of my relatives thank goodness because that would have me coming 218 00:22:14,83 --> 00:22:21,34 back here that much more to. Cole. I was interested though by someone that had 219 00:22:21,35 --> 00:22:24,23 a sense that I knew and this was 220 00:22:24,24 --> 00:22:29,67 a female on failure who says she told me she was taking this form and she made it 221 00:22:29,68 --> 00:22:36,26 easier for me. To get the message and it turned out to be many messages 222 00:22:37,15 --> 00:22:42,36 and what she what she ended up doing isn't she didn't raise me it was love and she 223 00:22:42,37 --> 00:22:49,18 said OK now or as you say the banks and I said Who was this week. And she said that 224 00:22:49,19 --> 00:22:53,69 she spoke for many others there are many many many games that like you speak to me 225 00:22:54,36 --> 00:23:00,98 but if all of them spoke and one of them was that I and I know the Creator 226 00:23:01,29 --> 00:23:07,15 there are other beings as well that wanted to speak to me but all of them came and 227 00:23:07,16 --> 00:23:13,39 were there in front of me and would have been to Rome to even function. Were not 228 00:23:13,40 --> 00:23:18,44 fully were not fully in spirit at that point we're sort of in this in between 229 00:23:18,45 --> 00:23:24,88 states of the human part of the will still be real and still very in our what I was 230 00:23:24,89 --> 00:23:31,67 experiencing but she. She basically led me around from what I felt like 231 00:23:31,68 --> 00:23:36,27 minds and tired me so much and so quite 232 00:23:36,28 --> 00:23:42,11 a bit is in my book and. Some of the most amazing things she taught me were how to 233 00:23:42,12 --> 00:23:48,70 create my own sense of having on earth when I came back and of course I had her 234 00:23:48,71 --> 00:23:53,41 coming back and I didn't want to come back because who would want to come back I've 235 00:23:53,42 --> 00:23:59,52 never experienced Divine Love or any kind of love on that scale before it's it's 236 00:23:59,53 --> 00:24:06,45 hard to think about coming back but she taught me and many many things. One 237 00:24:06,46 --> 00:24:12,13 of them is really truly the nature of love the nature of true love the divine scale 238 00:24:12,14 --> 00:24:18,96 this absolute unconditional acceptance and love. Gratitude is 239 00:24:18,97 --> 00:24:25,92 a part of that. The other things that I could do when I came back to make my 240 00:24:25,93 --> 00:24:31,87 life more headlines were to reach out and community and in support of others and to 241 00:24:31,88 --> 00:24:37,74 allow others to support me you know that reciprocal nature of love was very very 242 00:24:37,75 --> 00:24:41,33 much stressed in my life because I was in a place in my life or 243 00:24:41,34 --> 00:24:46,82 a needed that I needed to learn how to reach out of in love and help others and 244 00:24:46,83 --> 00:24:48,56 allow others to help me that was 245 00:24:48,57 --> 00:24:54,10 a big deal for me as the most independent person you could imagine or anybody 246 00:24:54,11 --> 00:25:00,47 doubting but I learned that very quickly. Another thing I learned was the 247 00:25:00,48 --> 00:25:07,42 importance and mazing importance of our thoughts or feelings especially 248 00:25:07,43 --> 00:25:14,35 our words and our actions our words especially our words and her actions on this 249 00:25:14,36 --> 00:25:19,11 plane and have and ate out from us and that only 250 00:25:19,12 --> 00:25:23,07 a very real sense in her physically but also 251 00:25:23,08 --> 00:25:27,58 a little on the spiritual level as well and so we can build 252 00:25:27,59 --> 00:25:34,18 a shelter up. By how we speak to each other how we act toward each other and either 253 00:25:34,19 --> 00:25:40,26 the nerve on the feelings inside help build each other. Or if we choose to come to 254 00:25:40,27 --> 00:25:46,67 reach other down make ourselves make hell for ourselves here or is it's our choice 255 00:25:46,67 --> 00:25:52,79 . There was another one of the mean because I had never really thought about 256 00:25:53,36 --> 00:26:00,22 my words and actions all that much and how they affected other people so that was 257 00:26:00,23 --> 00:26:03,69 a huge learning experience for me when I came back so 258 00:26:03,70 --> 00:26:09,14 a lot of the things are in my blog and I'll kind of refer you to that because I 259 00:26:09,15 --> 00:26:09,87 know someone asked 260 00:26:09,88 --> 00:26:15,88 a question that I think is really were. What was it like coming back then 261 00:26:16,78 --> 00:26:21,02 I had one thing that I threw a temper tantrum and I'll tell everybody that I threw 262 00:26:21,03 --> 00:26:26,53 a temper tantrum and I can't believe now in hindsight that I was screaming into 263 00:26:26,54 --> 00:26:32,14 a spiritual being that I did not live from act here but I wanted to go on with her 264 00:26:32,57 --> 00:26:39,49 to the final. He stated when and if you will and. I was training and yelling like 265 00:26:39,50 --> 00:26:44,37 a two year old girl temper tantrum. And it wasn't it wasn't 266 00:26:44,38 --> 00:26:49,35 a choice for me at that time it wasn't my time to go it was my time to come back 267 00:26:49,36 --> 00:26:56,03 here and improve my life and to share my experience and so I was booted back and 268 00:26:56,04 --> 00:27:02,11 woke up in the recovery room screaming crying and ecstasy allergists was freaking 269 00:27:02,12 --> 00:27:07,54 out about what was going out this woman and I was trying to use column for those 270 00:27:07,55 --> 00:27:14,10 with Grace caps asking made this easy hours where if she were issued. And 271 00:27:14,49 --> 00:27:20,68 Ball leg he could copy he says he had no idea who or somebody you know. It took me 272 00:27:20,69 --> 00:27:23,30 a few days to tell anybody else like to tell 273 00:27:23,31 --> 00:27:27,05 a challenge for us but coming back into this life was 274 00:27:27,06 --> 00:27:33,69 a shock it was for me it was like you know once I get I was there the next I was 275 00:27:33,70 --> 00:27:40,47 here and back in this physical plane where everything is hard all over again I mean 276 00:27:40,48 --> 00:27:45,86 there everything is easy we don't have this physical stuff that we have to deal 277 00:27:45,87 --> 00:27:48,19 with we don't have to worry about going to work and making 278 00:27:48,20 --> 00:27:54,06 a living we don't have to worry about oh I should have made the rent this month or 279 00:27:54,46 --> 00:28:01,30 you know do I have that time off to go on this vacation that I want to. Hear 280 00:28:01,34 --> 00:28:07,39 coming back into that reality was. Really difficult it took me 281 00:28:07,86 --> 00:28:14,67 a good week. To come down off my temper tantrum. Even though I was 282 00:28:14,68 --> 00:28:20,76 still angry and Chaz I was mad when my family left for the day at the end of the 283 00:28:20,77 --> 00:28:26,38 day and it's kind of yellow guided by the hospital room like why did you send you 284 00:28:26,39 --> 00:28:31,39 that here it was so easy over there I didn't hurt you know I had months and I had 285 00:28:31,40 --> 00:28:37,10 months of recovery ahead of me and. Dealing with the physical nature of just 286 00:28:37,11 --> 00:28:42,46 injuries and healing wounds was hard but that separation that felt like 287 00:28:42,47 --> 00:28:47,54 a separation from divine. Has 288 00:28:47,55 --> 00:28:52,78 a visible nature of this stuff this is gets in the way of her passion sometimes and 289 00:28:52,79 --> 00:28:58,57 subtle that connection isn't as obvious and I felt that way he would feel grief for 290 00:28:58,58 --> 00:29:01,95 the loss of a family member. It took me 291 00:29:01,96 --> 00:29:08,84 a few days to realize just what. That moment how to meet in which she helped me in 292 00:29:08,85 --> 00:29:15,08 the afterlife she said the God's love is here on earth just as much as it is and 293 00:29:15,09 --> 00:29:15,99 have been and it took me 294 00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:22,13 a few days to really fully understand that and then I relax and realize it's here 295 00:29:22,14 --> 00:29:27,97 to all so there you under current of love that Divine Love is here to is kind of 296 00:29:27,98 --> 00:29:30,64 hidden below the layer of the of this is 297 00:29:30,65 --> 00:29:35,38 a calendar thing but it is there it is there for everybody it doesn't matter where 298 00:29:35,38 --> 00:29:39,93 . Your story was going on Sunday or worse and you know I were 299 00:29:39,94 --> 00:29:44,53 a temple were even if you don't feel like me but it is 300 00:29:44,54 --> 00:29:49,54 a very I just want to let everybody know that you're all loving the air in your 301 00:29:49,55 --> 00:29:55,59 house and even understand it. Thank you 302 00:29:55,90 --> 00:30:02,63 thank. God i'm our 303 00:30:02,64 --> 00:30:09,63 next panelist is Mr Rex and yelled. Rex was intrigued. 304 00:30:11,60 --> 00:30:18,30 REICHS all Henri's down. From the tree on his. 305 00:30:19,89 --> 00:30:26,83 Own to current. Breaking twenty five. He 306 00:30:26,84 --> 00:30:31,58 was taken to the hospital. And the medical staff say without 307 00:30:31,59 --> 00:30:35,62 a brain injury he won't be able to function normally anymore and he will be 308 00:30:35,63 --> 00:30:42,63 incapacitated anyways do they feel. Like he's back. He's back after 309 00:30:42,64 --> 00:30:48,81 all of that now that he's returned to. You now in the midst of writing 310 00:30:48,82 --> 00:30:52,95 a book my experience my experiment with gravity. 311 00:30:57,84 --> 00:30:59,10 Arcs and structure of 312 00:30:59,11 --> 00:31:05,58 a con how the lights on quite good too. 313 00:31:07,19 --> 00:31:13,91 And he speaks on many many subjects spiritual and the subjects and developing into 314 00:31:13,92 --> 00:31:20,31 the paranormal he is an investigator and he conducts clear exult of light and dark 315 00:31:20,35 --> 00:31:24,78 energy tease and use so Rex has quite 316 00:31:24,84 --> 00:31:31,73 a different experience as each individual does so let's hear what Rex has to say 317 00:31:31,81 --> 00:31:34,07 Rex. But if you have 318 00:31:34,08 --> 00:31:40,38 a very nice fish you go. Yes I basically said I fell out of 319 00:31:40,39 --> 00:31:42,24 a tree. With 320 00:31:42,25 --> 00:31:49,13 a quote or phrase from the mine we are all about and. It was 321 00:31:49,14 --> 00:31:53,67 really good it's been quiet breezy journey all the way around higher to the 322 00:31:53,68 --> 00:32:00,43 experience. I hope I handle this is the way things are you know I haven't had one 323 00:32:00,44 --> 00:32:02,06 of those of a sense that I've had 324 00:32:02,07 --> 00:32:09,06 a very different path when I was walking and such as how far I fall our oil never 325 00:32:09,07 --> 00:32:15,00 hears I do have a history with Roy They should i did a lot of OK did 326 00:32:15,29 --> 00:32:19,53 a lot of acid back in those years those you know best I mean there's opium all 327 00:32:19,54 --> 00:32:23,20 these different things I was in there all he had more acid he was a hurry 328 00:32:23,21 --> 00:32:28,63 a lot of. So so much of you saw talk about the bombing and things like that I'm 329 00:32:28,64 --> 00:32:34,07 going to do so much right now I love experience and love inside and reason why I 330 00:32:34,08 --> 00:32:38,28 would suggest science and science will figure this stuff I wish for right now 331 00:32:38,29 --> 00:32:41,85 because I can tell you with any experience I had on drugs and I also had 332 00:32:41,86 --> 00:32:47,38 a lot of tattoos you're getting you know hours and it had to share your LOT of 333 00:32:47,50 --> 00:32:53,59 chemical rush and it's really for it's amazing and nothing compares to the empty 334 00:32:53,60 --> 00:33:00,51 itself. But it's finally started to come around hired by any Isa to wake up 335 00:33:00,52 --> 00:33:06,43 I believe classes but I was still very very mired in my past because of where it 336 00:33:06,44 --> 00:33:07,06 took me I did 337 00:33:07,07 --> 00:33:12,43 a lot of things that I was deeply deeply ashamed of and as I started to become 338 00:33:12,67 --> 00:33:17,69 awake I became much more acutely aware of the errors I done to the people around me 339 00:33:17,70 --> 00:33:23,35 and that in those years and you with myself and I just couldn't love it Frank we. 340 00:33:24,45 --> 00:33:26,46 Just got to I didn't want to be here I had 341 00:33:26,47 --> 00:33:30,75 a regular self loathing and just absolutely no idea if I did have 342 00:33:30,76 --> 00:33:35,07 a higher I was going to get to it I had no clue it just made no sense why somebody 343 00:33:35,08 --> 00:33:39,58 like me would have. Instead I was starting to happen I consider very very fleeting 344 00:33:40,12 --> 00:33:44,67 I had attempted to start writing my book prior to the end he but I think I got 345 00:33:44,68 --> 00:33:49,17 through about six pages about two years because I just bought all I can produce 346 00:33:49,18 --> 00:33:55,77 such as this as I was how infrequent these moments of the city actually were. And I 347 00:33:55,78 --> 00:34:00,60 remember I remember the time when my very good long time friends and then 348 00:34:00,61 --> 00:34:02,89 a comment to me was I know my life is good with 349 00:34:02,90 --> 00:34:05,49 a lot of things but there's something about you right now you see you seem 350 00:34:05,50 --> 00:34:10,51 a little bit off. And I remember thinking to myself he was right for feeling like 351 00:34:10,52 --> 00:34:13,00 this by the five again I was then and I thought of 352 00:34:13,01 --> 00:34:17,27 a lot of years I was the goofy management position clock of the time that I've had 353 00:34:17,28 --> 00:34:22,00 the following things are going really well I felt of often felt like it is what I 354 00:34:22,01 --> 00:34:26,50 was supposed to be and so one day I'm climbing 355 00:34:26,51 --> 00:34:31,59 a tree and climbing is just to go to the inside on that people asking many times 356 00:34:31,60 --> 00:34:32,08 what the world 357 00:34:32,09 --> 00:34:37,96 a grown man doing on the tree. So exciting is available on hi how are you mine 358 00:34:38,39 --> 00:34:41,38 great weather across train how my martial arts and I've climbed 359 00:34:41,39 --> 00:34:43,77 a lot of rocks and mountain sides 360 00:34:44,20 --> 00:34:48,76 a lot of trees have been way way higher than where I fell outside of rocks many 361 00:34:48,77 --> 00:34:54,65 times with no hearing and as we were just reply. There is 362 00:34:54,66 --> 00:34:59,99 a particular day I was in one of my favorite read of the training day and. The guy 363 00:35:00,00 --> 00:35:02,35 while running and saw my favorite tree and Clyde 364 00:35:02,90 --> 00:35:07,34 a couple of branches let go and I was down on the economy by half so it's kind of 365 00:35:07,35 --> 00:35:11,15 interesting that it might have Massachusetts why there's grass on either side of 366 00:35:11,16 --> 00:35:17,58 the creek not too far away from that. Smack dab in the Pike af with my entire body 367 00:35:17,58 --> 00:35:24,16 . As Julie said they have first. On the way I think 368 00:35:24,20 --> 00:35:27,40 a little bit of the names on this land on my left side of my body is my only broken 369 00:35:27,41 --> 00:35:31,30 bones for all of us I prefer brave over many rivers my house was 370 00:35:31,31 --> 00:35:34,69 a four places. And I had spent over 371 00:35:34,70 --> 00:35:39,40 a month in the hospital. Years of surgeries and there are easier back right now on 372 00:35:39,40 --> 00:35:44,76 . And thankfully very thankfully when I go here or for a heart of this and 373 00:35:44,77 --> 00:35:46,18 a lot of great doctors eyes and 374 00:35:46,19 --> 00:35:52,75 a lot of work with. These three it was while I'm on sure different forms of side 375 00:35:52,82 --> 00:35:57,57 energy work so I will say for my case I definitely for the best interest of 376 00:35:57,58 --> 00:35:59,63 medicine course really work for 377 00:35:59,64 --> 00:36:02,90 a part of my martial arts also got me through it see what my body didn't work for 378 00:36:02,91 --> 00:36:09,18 while I was still doing my martial arts the center of my body let me do. Getting 379 00:36:09,19 --> 00:36:15,73 into the twenty stuff that I was under the use of the power five days. 380 00:36:16,96 --> 00:36:21,96 I was decimated songs and prosperous for our shareholders Congress and he was first 381 00:36:21,97 --> 00:36:28,06 to gays and I can say with our last of all those you know I look back on 382 00:36:28,07 --> 00:36:29,21 a five hundred eighty S. 383 00:36:29,22 --> 00:36:33,27 Out of business it was a moment and also give 384 00:36:33,28 --> 00:36:38,19 a list that when I came up with the whole I was not OK I had no idea where I was or 385 00:36:38,20 --> 00:36:42,36 to go out even or even myself and for that matter wasn't how I was getting out of 386 00:36:42,37 --> 00:36:43,10 my doctors about 387 00:36:43,11 --> 00:36:47,52 a month after I leave the hospital I loved it and I was like I had something happen 388 00:36:47,53 --> 00:36:51,70 I couldn't quite explain it there are kind of people within the hospital and of 389 00:36:51,71 --> 00:36:54,97 others as from I was saying of the something about I don't know what it was that I 390 00:36:54,98 --> 00:36:59,74 was really loving feeling something something and I can explain it and I was it one 391 00:36:59,75 --> 00:37:03,26 of my problems with the saying what I was you know we don't qualify as it was 392 00:37:03,27 --> 00:37:08,10 a near death experience at all most definitely yes and as I said I wish he 393 00:37:08,11 --> 00:37:10,77 explained to me you would have expected to survive it inspire you to make it 394 00:37:10,78 --> 00:37:15,66 through the night let alone to be healed as well as you are nobody expected me to 395 00:37:15,95 --> 00:37:22,51 be able to walk normally yes I walk they came I destroyed my left elbow my shoulder 396 00:37:23,15 --> 00:37:28,61 that they were not expected to ever be reversing back in the News of the day so I'm 397 00:37:28,62 --> 00:37:34,71 back trying martial arts side teaching and stuff as I did. Most of the night it's 398 00:37:34,72 --> 00:37:37,73 like a half hour. But it was 399 00:37:37,74 --> 00:37:41,71 a decision I made back in the hospital my to realize that I'm going to be back on 400 00:37:41,72 --> 00:37:48,54 in trouble training I did not exactly how I. Get into the actual 401 00:37:48,58 --> 00:37:55,40 modus vivendi the legs furious for me it 402 00:37:55,41 --> 00:37:59,77 was basically this is the experience of I mean I like most of my body there is and 403 00:37:59,78 --> 00:38:06,22 I didn't see any. I didn't have the visual after the just being like you 404 00:38:07,22 --> 00:38:07,60 I had 405 00:38:07,61 --> 00:38:13,51 a tremendous sense of experiencing by your being I do this for using my you're being 406 00:38:13,52 --> 00:38:15,20 I was experiencing fear even of 407 00:38:15,21 --> 00:38:21,55 a self I value that moment I was evading and it had been 408 00:38:21,56 --> 00:38:24,89 a neighbor who was basically all over reality everything's that was 409 00:38:24,90 --> 00:38:30,26 a sort of consciousness. And kind of series of The Little on Syria during the 410 00:38:30,27 --> 00:38:31,69 holiday and sort of sides as 411 00:38:31,70 --> 00:38:38,66 a warlock as an acre of that. Visit her visit our supervision there 412 00:38:38,70 --> 00:38:42,74 on Syria to try her first of particles existing of multiple places at the same time 413 00:38:43,58 --> 00:38:49,50 I felt reality that while I was existing in the places all over reality all OSs was 414 00:38:49,54 --> 00:38:56,01 was with existing since everything. What I experienced was basically 415 00:38:56,18 --> 00:39:02,84 literally. All space whatever the expanse of the universe me all was imagine that 416 00:39:02,95 --> 00:39:09,44 qualify that as my way or the singular all of time past present and future that was 417 00:39:09,48 --> 00:39:16,11 all the same she learned all the while think about probability and possibility 418 00:39:17,10 --> 00:39:21,46 of getting into concepts of multiple realities and pro universe as it was all there 419 00:39:21,47 --> 00:39:28,41 all odds. As time flies. I think about that intervention as it was 420 00:39:28,42 --> 00:39:33,37 of all the errors that moment I was that I was neither of my own here remember who 421 00:39:33,38 --> 00:39:37,56 didn't care about us as the last of it was somehow special to me this is a part of 422 00:39:37,57 --> 00:39:43,52 a fight about this America every single one of us other major areas as us we're all 423 00:39:43,53 --> 00:39:48,89 bits and pieces of that divinity experiencing itself through our experience you 424 00:39:48,90 --> 00:39:53,85 know if it's true that God is God knows and all that it scary for me God is the 425 00:39:53,86 --> 00:39:59,97 experience of it all and in that space what I experience was pure love was and as 426 00:39:59,98 --> 00:40:04,55 a pure life it was all alive it was no question this is alive everything about us 427 00:40:04,56 --> 00:40:06,46 that's a lot of analysts it's 428 00:40:06,47 --> 00:40:13,28 a truly purely intelligence so I will forget one of the other the ways and more 429 00:40:13,29 --> 00:40:17,51 than all the years in this business is all about love is the experience of love I 430 00:40:17,52 --> 00:40:23,52 believe the purpose of life is we experience the love of all its forms. So it would 431 00:40:23,53 --> 00:40:23,73 have 432 00:40:23,74 --> 00:40:31,64 a very very much for listening Thunder Hear. Thank 433 00:40:31,64 --> 00:40:36,41 . You. Do you try them all things. 434 00:40:38,63 --> 00:40:44,97 Are your experience or. She's asleep or off or in retail shop owner I'm still 435 00:40:44,98 --> 00:40:51,25 liable I'll write of her book is why I'm writing this out. So 436 00:40:51,49 --> 00:40:58,35 understates the experience she wasn't home for many gigs and she came out of it 437 00:40:58,36 --> 00:40:59,96 too she had 438 00:40:59,97 --> 00:41:06,62 a very remarkable experience and she has four 439 00:41:07,16 --> 00:41:12,70 touching stories that she experienced in her during her again experience now often 440 00:41:12,71 --> 00:41:17,07 times when these people have these experiences and then return here back to 441 00:41:17,08 --> 00:41:22,97 physical life that experience the. Now they are on 442 00:41:22,98 --> 00:41:28,47 a new life and now they know who their purpose is and they're generally charging 443 00:41:28,48 --> 00:41:34,79 forward and stressing that new wife so they're more about what's in front of them 444 00:41:35,01 --> 00:41:41,67 how manifesting the message of love that they received on the other side. Do you 445 00:41:41,68 --> 00:41:48,56 draw in the city or tell us about. Her experience and her background and her 446 00:41:48,57 --> 00:41:50,81 story please tell me will the deep. 447 00:41:54,58 --> 00:42:01,56 Thank you kind of part of the story. It is it is hard 448 00:42:01,64 --> 00:42:04,24 to really go back my way my experience have 449 00:42:04,25 --> 00:42:09,40 a sudden here is ago and. It is really it was 450 00:42:09,41 --> 00:42:16,19 a tour that I walked through and saloon life and new. Being the 451 00:42:16,29 --> 00:42:22,41 way. I am going away is currently to go back and talk about the details of this and 452 00:42:22,42 --> 00:42:25,50 that as highlighting been there done that got a T. 453 00:42:25,51 --> 00:42:32,21 Shirt. And so on living my hell while quite honestly yes we 454 00:42:32,25 --> 00:42:37,66 all have books and the reason we have talks is because we have so much to share 455 00:42:37,93 --> 00:42:44,15 their body and it just pushes its way out under the author 456 00:42:45,07 --> 00:42:51,48 of the writer but there's things I actually know because I wanted to to 457 00:42:51,49 --> 00:42:57,89 experience when I experienced because I felt like it was bigger than me. 458 00:42:59,11 --> 00:43:05,39 But you had this on me now just to give you a little background that I am not 459 00:43:05,40 --> 00:43:08,46 a very traumatic childhood and I was raised in 460 00:43:08,47 --> 00:43:13,84 a recession family on we were Presbyterians and. 461 00:43:15,48 --> 00:43:20,91 I had the usual blood offering and I had to believe you know. I guess that lead in 462 00:43:20,92 --> 00:43:26,32 Jesus to you know I was very happy to tell him something you believe in the things 463 00:43:26,33 --> 00:43:31,66 that you're talking unfortunately I had some very very traumatic events that 464 00:43:31,67 --> 00:43:32,51 happened what I was 465 00:43:32,52 --> 00:43:38,98 a young child. Again in my early adulthood and one of the dancers was ten years old 466 00:43:39,34 --> 00:43:44,74 I helped my father died. And excuse me. 467 00:43:46,79 --> 00:43:53,68 That kind of started the tug of war between me and my piano. And by 468 00:43:53,69 --> 00:43:58,46 the time I had reached the dull footing with all the other things that happened to 469 00:43:58,47 --> 00:44:03,07 me there were just as forever that. I figured if there was 470 00:44:03,08 --> 00:44:04,90 a god and he didn't care about 471 00:44:04,96 --> 00:44:11,87 a very much and you know wanted to that made me not care for which. 472 00:44:13,65 --> 00:44:19,77 I happened to be an artistic person and used that artistic ability to color my life 473 00:44:19,77 --> 00:44:26,19 . I came across as happy and I came across as joyful I came across as 474 00:44:26,20 --> 00:44:32,37 colorful and that's how I lived my life. There were still some spiritual parts of 475 00:44:32,48 --> 00:44:39,07 me I was never truly an atheist in eight years but if there was 476 00:44:39,08 --> 00:44:45,69 a coming out there he didn't talk to me. So I play act my wife 477 00:44:45,80 --> 00:44:51,69 pretty much. And use her time that's quite recent. 478 00:44:54,25 --> 00:45:01,07 Anyway by the time I reached fifty seven years old I can kind of being me back down 479 00:45:01,11 --> 00:45:04,92 pretty good as long as I didn't have to go in the mirror for more than 480 00:45:04,93 --> 00:45:11,75 a few minutes because of financially look at myself and say to you 481 00:45:12,32 --> 00:45:19,20 I say. Now like you do and I can see him back 482 00:45:19,58 --> 00:45:26,02 to back to me or I get to the bird dog all of God's creations 483 00:45:26,67 --> 00:45:32,90 and he knew that they were creating something easy to. Me. 484 00:45:33,91 --> 00:45:36,97 So I hid. Behind 485 00:45:37,01 --> 00:45:43,10 a colorful life and when to slow down and open the store I had 486 00:45:43,11 --> 00:45:48,30 a wonderful sister and supported them and so one day to day love to Kali's friends 487 00:45:48,31 --> 00:45:53,60 to go shopping for the scarf and two hundred barrel that I do I decided to put my 488 00:45:53,61 --> 00:45:58,89 husband some powerful. And some of that was what started playing T.V. 489 00:45:59,37 --> 00:46:05,67 But I actually have four experiences and I had two experiences when I was in 490 00:46:05,68 --> 00:46:11,25 a critical state and I had to then when I was not in any. 491 00:46:12,79 --> 00:46:18,68 You know jeopardy of dying and the end of all of those experiences came the door to 492 00:46:18,69 --> 00:46:24,30 me and I can explain it here is really very little behind it but it is here and 493 00:46:24,31 --> 00:46:29,44 every single word of it is here and everybody there and I knew that it was 494 00:46:29,45 --> 00:46:34,97 a learning circle of love and this was given to me and it was given to me in this 495 00:46:34,98 --> 00:46:41,75 includes because having given to me options I would accept that I 496 00:46:41,84 --> 00:46:47,84 would accept that but when I was in my experience a part of my experience I was 497 00:46:47,85 --> 00:46:54,42 a cop for twelve days and I had so many little experiences within the span of two 498 00:46:54,43 --> 00:47:01,30 of the tags. I never had the concept of going anywhere or 499 00:47:01,34 --> 00:47:05,18 tarring border. Going through 500 00:47:05,19 --> 00:47:10,48 a tunnel I guess which is as part of some people's in your job experiences I 501 00:47:10,49 --> 00:47:17,08 actually knew that I was being held so there was no concept of death to me and I 502 00:47:17,44 --> 00:47:22,96 didn't see people I didn't see religious figures inferior to one was profound parts 503 00:47:22,97 --> 00:47:29,65 of my experiences started off of these colors and being an artist one of the things 504 00:47:29,66 --> 00:47:35,57 that I had to do in my jobs on my position I have many years ago was I have to 505 00:47:35,58 --> 00:47:42,30 match hours of handsful orders or colors and people would give the events and 506 00:47:43,28 --> 00:47:48,27 a lot of times there are shades in between shades in between changes that you can 507 00:47:48,32 --> 00:47:55,10 see and so he came very very good at seeing all of the different color spectrum. 508 00:47:55,65 --> 00:48:01,37 But in order to acquire experience I realize as others being drawn into this 509 00:48:01,38 --> 00:48:07,68 kaleidoscope those around me those things family of those colors is the 510 00:48:08,11 --> 00:48:14,89 article or second here's like the new one one hundred of what truly exists am 511 00:48:14,90 --> 00:48:20,01 already and the thing for me also as it is that these colors they were three 512 00:48:20,02 --> 00:48:26,96 dimensional They have five relations they had sounds and as ice swirled into the 513 00:48:26,97 --> 00:48:32,71 school I discovered it was cool because it was like I could act out and see if it 514 00:48:32,72 --> 00:48:34,04 distances like you would see 515 00:48:34,05 --> 00:48:40,52 a kaleidoscope turn it makes I was and I saw the truly intricate 516 00:48:40,53 --> 00:48:46,96 patterns and the most sudden being like. My hunches would just go right into autumn 517 00:48:47,23 --> 00:48:47,72 and I could be 518 00:48:47,73 --> 00:48:54,49 a part of the swirling and I could hear and feel each five ration as I passed up to 519 00:48:54,50 --> 00:49:01,32 each hour and solutions there is no physicality I was sure consciousness 520 00:49:02,03 --> 00:49:07,29 I was pure consciousness and it was just an chaining em and they knew it was being 521 00:49:07,30 --> 00:49:12,50 held in their new number the earthly logical side where it goes from here and there 522 00:49:12,51 --> 00:49:19,25 never think you are. A minority students seem on this coders but worse the cold way 523 00:49:19,25 --> 00:49:25,79 . And this soon permeated my thought. It was like 524 00:49:26,53 --> 00:49:33,27 I had let you feel like play here. And 525 00:49:33,32 --> 00:49:37,97 for one the split down the stack I experience the way. 526 00:49:42,17 --> 00:49:47,69 It was prayer then in the morning you know her and with her and for her. 527 00:49:49,50 --> 00:49:55,79 And it was above all these colors that I was being held and I knew that I was being 528 00:49:55,80 --> 00:50:01,45 held in the colors even though I didn't know I had body and more because quite 529 00:50:01,46 --> 00:50:06,21 honestly I forgot about me feeling like I forgot about me as 530 00:50:06,22 --> 00:50:12,50 a living human being and I was just pure consciousness being held in these colors 531 00:50:13,18 --> 00:50:16,07 and when I got to experience that whiteness for 532 00:50:16,08 --> 00:50:22,98 a second and I knew that that whiteness was home. It was like I'm 533 00:50:23,02 --> 00:50:28,63 on the sun every night and blew away and it was out in the universe. 534 00:50:30,16 --> 00:50:33,08 And it's just pure consciousness floating in the universe 535 00:50:33,09 --> 00:50:40,04 a very madness of anything Iran has with me and on this side my the reader it 536 00:50:40,05 --> 00:50:46,22 was as if he took his hand and ran across my face but it was for whom I saw you as 537 00:50:46,26 --> 00:50:52,94 I wasn't there and it was like just be just me. And Office side 538 00:50:53,52 --> 00:50:59,17 I turned out just be and one called that's one that wonderful one just. 539 00:51:01,55 --> 00:51:08,31 Needed I saw and he understood the connection I understood why was I 540 00:51:08,35 --> 00:51:15,23 understood and that. And when he came back to earth and there were so much 541 00:51:15,24 --> 00:51:19,40 harder trying for it but when I came back to earth and I don't know man hours and 542 00:51:19,41 --> 00:51:26,36 there was my son he was holding my hand and looked at him and he was I 543 00:51:26,37 --> 00:51:32,98 didn't know what the human figure was I had lost. Any sort of consciousness about 544 00:51:32,99 --> 00:51:39,45 that and on this understanding cooking and I smiled and said Love you. 545 00:51:41,28 --> 00:51:47,24 And we just want you to smile cracked through your consciousness and all of 546 00:51:47,25 --> 00:51:53,87 a sudden every thing that was neat came back and me and I knew. And for 547 00:51:53,88 --> 00:51:59,93 one split second it was like my soul turned around and I wanted to come back and 548 00:51:59,94 --> 00:52:06,65 wanted to go back and there was this song was warm something and the curtain and I 549 00:52:06,66 --> 00:52:13,46 had to turn around and face this way. And every thing 550 00:52:13,66 --> 00:52:19,68 smashed up but you know we're we're right we're weak. 551 00:52:21,15 --> 00:52:27,68 And as the days in the months come by yes the sparkle coats away some of the clean 552 00:52:27,78 --> 00:52:34,57 falls off the communal space you know you experience where you realize you have to 553 00:52:34,58 --> 00:52:40,80 create again. And I was given and one of my early 554 00:52:40,81 --> 00:52:47,74 experiences I was given the gift of self-love now hearing fifty seven years old 555 00:52:48,45 --> 00:52:54,88 and I never really loved myself and I vote myself now and so as I go 556 00:52:54,88 --> 00:52:56,88 forward sorry. 557 00:53:01,88 --> 00:53:05,77 But one of the things that wasn't partisan me and was very very important and this 558 00:53:05,77 --> 00:53:08,36 is what I do as I go forward and I'm not 559 00:53:08,37 --> 00:53:13,15 a public speaker like I said I'm going to write him nor the public speaker I'm just 560 00:53:13,16 --> 00:53:20,03 supposed. And I guess I was given and I 561 00:53:20,04 --> 00:53:22,36 give in. And. 562 00:53:27,37 --> 00:53:28,73 It's in for 563 00:53:28,74 --> 00:53:35,48 a song poem we can hear both of you can hear more of the. Pain you 564 00:53:35,49 --> 00:53:41,74 all thank. You.